Old Street Lighting on StreetView

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Old Street Lighting on StreetView

Post by Kev » Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:39 pm

OK When I was 16 me and a few older mates went on a random road trip which went to Birmingham, London and Rochdale. When in Rochdale I remember we went to see another friend's old house from before he moved to Cornwall. When we were there I remember seeing loads of these old concrete street lights with open SOX lamps in them. I remember them almost being sort of seagull wing
I didn't for one minute think they would still be there, Swept away by some retarded PFI. HOWEVER

AND HERE

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Re: Old Street Lighting on StreetView

Post by SuperSix » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:24 pm

Wow! These are amazing, I love the way the SOX lamp is just bare under the fitting! I was born in Rochdale as well but unlike some people, I can't remember what the street lighting was like when I was a few months old! :lol:

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Re: Old Street Lighting on StreetView

Post by Kev » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:34 pm

Lol u need to remember harder Eliot. I have just been having a look around there and came across some more oldies on THIS road here!

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Post by Danny » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:44 pm

Yes these are Amazing, i don't think i have ever seen one like that before... it will be a big big shame when / if these are removed for cosmo

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Post by SuperSix » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:46 pm

I'm tryna think who made these lanterns, I've seen them before elsewhere!

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Re: Old Street Lighting on StreetView

Post by Danny » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:50 pm

They remind me of Esla's for some reason... i wonder if Mike Barford has one of these?

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Re: Old Street Lighting on StreetView

Post by Kev » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:59 pm

it would be cool if you guys with faster BB could have a look around the area and see if you can see more! I remember seeing one with a 55W Lamp hanging out of it lol.

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Re: Old Street Lighting on StreetView

Post by Danny » Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:15 pm

Theres quite a few more about that little estate, on 'Lorne street' there is another wierd one! near some building works. could this be a one that has its original cover... some of the Concretes look to have been replaced sometime in the past with Steel columns with either BETA 2 or BETA 5s on them.... Ill show these to Mike Barford!

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Post by frutas » Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:33 pm

Wow - now those are nice. I think they are wardle seagulls: http://www.eastbournes-street-lighting. ... Sodium.htm 45W version on that site

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Post by Kev » Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:53 pm

Do you mean THIS danny?

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Post by Danny » Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:55 pm

Yep thats the one... it has the "Alpha 1" look to it doesn't it?

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Post by Kev » Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:00 pm

Yes i thought that. Found this one too this

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Post by Danny » Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:05 pm

Yes i have seen one or 2 of these before, they look nto be early 60s... dunno what they are, i will go on MB site

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Re: Old Street Lighting on StreetView

Post by Danny » Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:09 pm

Looks like it could be this lantern?? http://www.streetlightonline.co.uk/C137 ... graphs.htm

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Post by frutas » Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:20 pm

Last one is an eleco HW846 - very nice old lanterns!

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Re: Old Street Lighting on StreetView

Post by Paul » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:07 am

Frutas is right - they used to have them in a village near me many years ago!

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Re: Old Street Lighting on StreetView

Post by Kev » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:49 pm

Well i googled Rochdale Street lighting tonight to see if there were any collectors in that area and what do i find....???

THIS

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Re: Old Street Lighting on StreetView

Post by SuperSix » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:02 pm

Well that'll soon be the end of them then! I thought it was too good to be true. I don't see why they have to interfere with a perfectly good, efficient installation.

I really do not see the logic in these 'upgrades' as they call them because the power consumption is doubled, visual contrast is reduced and with cut-off lanterns the lighting seems patchy leaving some areas in blackness!

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Re: Old Street Lighting on StreetView

Post by Danny » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:38 pm

Another area to be destroyed! sick of seeing Cosmopolis all over the place already!

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Re: Old Street Lighting on StreetView

Post by Kev » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:52 pm

I think the thing that annoys me is that they are still new, Not tried and tested. Cosmos only came out in 2006 and the first lot that were put in have had mass ballast fails! Its not tried and tested technology. People these days seem to think that 8-10 years is good life span for goods.
The fact that these old SOX columns have done 50 years odd service (and you just know there is some big old leak tranny in the bottom) seems to go un noticed??

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Re: Old Street Lighting on StreetView

Post by Danny » Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:27 pm

I have to agree with you there about the Tried & tested bit mainly, They should of Tried & tested them etc... The thing that annoys me about it is how fast Cosmo is taking over there must be 100s being changed a day in each county, I actually cannot believe how fast its taking over, i think theres more Cosmos actually dying a day or Dayburning than how many a day is being installed!... Total Madness! i wouldent mind Cosmo so much if they wernt using these stupid Node Systems that look pathetic and wernt using such ugly Lanterns

I think the only good thing about cosmo is us guys getting to see the Street light guys and getting our Bits & Pieces off them... So for that reason i cannot wait for it to be done so i can save some lanterns and other bits as i know the Guys... Id rather it wasn't done though and SON was installed or atleast SON lanterns with MH Lamps

Looks like theres nout we can do about it though devistatingly. Apart from Keep SOX , SON, MBF , Fluorescent etc in our Collections

SO MUCH FOR COUNCILS MAKING CUTS!!!

Danny...

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Re: Old Street Lighting on StreetView

Post by LinearSLI-H » Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:23 pm

Danny wrote:Looks like it could be this lantern?? http://www.streetlightonline.co.uk/C137 ... graphs.htm
Could be a Golden Ray Dan?
FEED THE MOOMIN!!

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Re: Old Street Lighting on StreetView

Post by Danny » Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:27 pm

Actually yes i never knew that a "Golden Ray" lantern Existed... that looks to be it, Cheers Rich

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Re: Old Street Lighting on StreetView

Post by sailormoon01uk » Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:00 pm

the light is the Eleco Golden Ray MK VII or the HW846 Street lights they are the same lantern, I have one the same in my Collection. see photo

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All the Best

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Re: Old Street Lighting on StreetView

Post by Kev » Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:09 pm

Can anyone identify THIS

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