'Tridonic to quit magnetic ballast business ahead of EU ban'

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'Tridonic to quit magnetic ballast business ahead of EU ban'

Post by SuperSix » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:07 pm

Taken from Lux Review:

'Tridonic is to pull out of the magnetic ballasts and transformers business, ahead of a European ban scheduled for 2017.Tridonic customers can order up until November. ‘This decision means that we will be able to focus more strongly than ever on LED technology,’ Tridonic CEO Alfred Felder told Lux Review.’Over the financial year we were able to increase the proportion of revenue accounted for by LED products to 19 percent. Right now we are about to launch a new generation of LED converters in what will be one of our most important core projects at Tridonic in 2013/14.’

The decline of magnetic ballast sales has been reflected in falling revenue, with sales falling by 60 per cent since 2007. In the 2012/13 financial year, magnetics accounted for just 9.4 percent of Tridonic’s total revenue of US5 million (€378 million). The EU is now using the Ecodesign Directive ErP legislation to ban maganetic ballasts from 2017 onwards.'

I can't believe it! Tridonic magnetic ballasts are some of the best available today! :o

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Re: 'Tridonic to quit magnetic ballast business ahead of EU

Post by Paul » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:39 pm

"Tridonic to quit making magnetic ballasts as they never fail and there is a bigger revenue stream in replacing crappy HF"

WHEN ARE THE EU GOING TO WAKE UP! THEY'RE A BUNCH OF COMATOSE IDIOTS! MAGNETIC BALLAST IS MORE RELIABLE, EASIER TO RECYCLE AND LESS HARMFUL TO THE ENVIROMENT IN MANUFACTURE! :x :x :x :x :x

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Re: 'Tridonic to quit magnetic ballast business ahead of EU

Post by LinearSLI-H » Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:32 pm

Ah but, HF gear lasts the least number of hours, so therefor make more profit for the manufacturer who has to make more to replace dead ones!
And as we know, profit is first on the list, before the consumer, the enviroment and the end user in general.
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Re: 'Tridonic to quit magnetic ballast business ahead of EU

Post by Tom » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:41 pm

End of an era. :crying
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Re: 'Tridonic to quit magnetic ballast business ahead of EU

Post by Kev » Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:30 pm

This is pretty ***** but a tridonics are the ***** IMO. The EC 58 is not as good the VS or Halvar magnetic. This is just pathetic really though!

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Re: 'Tridonic to quit magnetic ballast business ahead of EU

Post by Tom » Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:54 pm

Tridonic exiting the market will mean more sales for VS and Helvar and the like! When everyone finally realises that electronic ballasts are anything but the pinnacle of reliability, there will be a magnetic renaissance of ultra low loss chokes! Including T5! Be patient chaps, I'm sure the day will come!
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Re: 'Tridonic to quit magnetic ballast business ahead of EU

Post by funkylamp » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:21 am

I find VS ballast are made well, VS is just entering the US market
sad we cant get the the 30 watt and 40 watt ballast, as it over the 4 foot magnetic ballast ban in the US
according to US VS catalog, while it still listed in the EU catalog :x

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Re: 'Tridonic to quit magnetic ballast business ahead of EU

Post by kappa7 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:58 pm

The EU will not ban the magnetic ballasts in 2017. Only the way to calculate the minimum efficiency will be changed.
We've discussed this some time ago here.

For example VS make already a new range of A2 magnetic ballast for T8 and T5 lamps

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Re: 'Tridonic to quit magnetic ballast business ahead of EU

Post by Paul » Sun Dec 01, 2013 5:48 pm

Why does the trade keep referring to it as a ban then? It gets confusing!

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Re: 'Tridonic to quit magnetic ballast business ahead of EU

Post by Tom » Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:55 pm

As for VS, I hope those new ultra low loss chokes make it big! If so then we might just see T5 luminaires lasting 20+ years!
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Re: 'Tridonic to quit magnetic ballast business ahead of EU

Post by Kev » Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:17 pm

Weren't available here last time I checked!

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Re: 'Tridonic to quit magnetic ballast business ahead of EU

Post by Jack_T » Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:51 pm

I look forward to buying some of those VS T5 ballasts! The idea of having a magnetic choke in those fittings in my living room sounds nice!

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Re: 'Tridonic to quit magnetic ballast business ahead of EU

Post by Lampwizard » Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:02 pm

The way it works with the upcoming ban is that manufacturers are forced to make the conventional ballasts more efficient. This requires extra design effort, higher component/material cost and thus higher over-all cost. Combined with increased market price erosion of conventional ballasts, falling cost of and thus increased competition by electronic gear and also LED luminiares, it simply does not make sense from a money point of view to stay in the conventional gear business. That's why many pull out while other are able still to make money out of it by staking out their own niche.

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Re: 'Tridonic to quit magnetic ballast business ahead of EU

Post by amtrakuk » Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:34 pm

Very sad. Very dispointed with the decision. Whats next, glow starters?
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Re: 'Tridonic to quit magnetic ballast business ahead of EU

Post by LinearSLI-H » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:24 pm

I think their just trying to get rid of wire wound gear full stop, as with GLS lamps, theres probably no profit in magnetic gear now, an yes, SS will go the same way, I can see all inductive lighting being sold with electronic gear built in soon, so you don`t even have a choice what gear you use, its already happening with the small T5 link lights for under unit use.
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Re: 'Tridonic to quit magnetic ballast business ahead of EU

Post by SuperSix » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:47 pm

I can see the same thing happening.

There's little benefit in using electronic gear for most general discharge lighting applications though! Unlike fluorescent lamps which run up to 10% more efficiently at high frequencies, discharge lamps don't. In fact you can end up with dangerous acoustic resonance effects occurring where the arc bows and runs along the discharge tube wall resulting in overheating and premature failure. So most electronic discharge ballasts run the lamps at a fairly low frequency (a few 100Hz).

You can easily get hold of low loss discharge gear with EEIs of A3 and A2 and hot restrike and anti cycling ignitors are available. To me the electronic ballasts just seem like a money making idea!

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Re: 'Tridonic to quit magnetic ballast business ahead of EU

Post by Kev » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:22 pm

I mean why would tridonic want to keep making long lasting magnetic ballasts when they can churn out lumps of crap like this that last 3-5 years and then need replacing again make it in china for 50p and sell it to the stupid Brits for £20! As we all know most mag gears will last 20-50 years. These pieces or crap start blowing from new!
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Re: 'Tridonic to quit magnetic ballast business ahead of EU

Post by LinearSLI-H » Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:01 pm

Corporate business wins again, s**t makes money, reliability doesn`t!
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