A clear canister starter switch?!

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A clear canister starter switch?!

Postby Paul » Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:56 am

I was trawling through fleabay and saw an auction for some Philips starters... they appear to have clear canisters!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STARTER-SWITCH-PHILIPS-S10-4-65W-NEW-QUANTITY-14-/270715507957?pt=UK_BOI_Lights_Lighting_ET&hash=item3f07e6d4f5

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Re: A clear canister starter switch?!

Postby SuperSix » Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:50 pm

I used to have one of those, I don't know what happened to it though! They do look good when starting, flash bright pink! 8-)

They supposedly give a slightly increased lamp life because they preheat slightly longer, still not as good as an electronic starter though.

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Re: A clear canister starter switch?!

Postby Kev » Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:56 pm

Yes i have seen these in fridges and chillers wondered what the difference was??

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Re: A clear canister starter switch?!

Postby Paul » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:05 am

Oh well - I bought the lot from eBay - I was intrigued!
Still waiting for my vintage Philips lamps to turn up!

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Re: A clear canister starter switch?!

Postby Jack_T » Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:19 am

Were these any good? I might just get some :P

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Re: A clear canister starter switch?!

Postby Paul » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:23 am

Well, they look nice!! :D

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Re: A clear canister starter switch?!

Postby XmasLightGuy » Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:44 pm

Never seen a clear starter before..that looks cool :)

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Re: A clear canister starter switch?!

Postby Jack_T » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:07 pm

I'm tempted to buy some (even though I don't use many 4-65w lamps!) just to see the pretty colour!

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Re: A clear canister starter switch?!

Postby Tom » Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:04 pm

The Philips S10 was and still is one of the best glow starters ever made. Today, it is THE best starter switch you can buy in my opinion so these enhanced clear versions are definitely worth getting!! Same goes with the S2 and S16s! Still Dutch made and not Chinese like the GE 155 series are now! The only other decent starters are the German made Osram ST range which the current versions have a similar style canister with the bevelled top like these new style Philips!

These starters very rarely get stuck, hardly ever become slow and almost certainly won't melt or catch fire!! :lol:
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Re: A clear canister starter switch?!

Postby SuperSix » Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:09 pm

Those S16s are still the best by far as you've just said, Tom! There's one at work that's been flashing, 12 hours a day for 3 working weeks with a failed 8' 100W tube, most other starters stick within a day or two with 8' tubes! :o

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Postby Tom » Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:17 pm

Oh yes! Failed 8 footers are so notorious for getting stuck, I VERY rarely see one actually flashing!! Look up in any 8' lit high rise warehouse or factory and you'll see several if not hundreds of glowing ends!! :o This ain't good for those old fittings! The ballasts and lamp holders get toasted!

@XmasLightGuy I'm surprised you don't get clear starters of some form over the pond! You guys can still get them with metal canisters, can't you? They died out here over 30 years ago!
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Postby Kev » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:02 pm

Yes i agree i buy Philips starters in baulk. As eliot already knows, The room where my Dimmable Atlantic came from about 2 years ago was fitted with Dextra Sleek Switch starts 2X70W. These had Philips Master 840 6' Tubes and came factory with China GE starters. 2 years on and i had a call back there the other day because 4 tubes were out, One fitting completely and 2 tubes in others. At first i thought it was going to be loose connections as these lights use the displacement style but it just turned out to be the crappy gay GE starters had just stopped working for no reason. Not stuck just stopped lol.

Also the Osram ones seem to get stuck more often than the Philips! Esp at EOL they seem to get stuck quite quick! As eliot says the Philips rarely fail!

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Postby SuperSix » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:07 pm

The Osram ones are *****! There's also a row of 4 5' Pop Packs at work, all with stuck starters which are Osram ST111s and if you twist the starter's out the tubes light so they've just stuck for no reason cause they're crap. I'll have to restarter them :P I'm the only one that can do it without a stool so it's no problem.

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Postby Kev » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:11 pm

Yes u need to get some picks of lighting at work eliot i wanna see there place! Rexel near me have the best set up!!

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Re: A clear canister starter switch?!

Postby Tom » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:47 pm

Oh dear... I think my 4' UV cages have factory fitted ST111s! They're getting S10'ed next weekend! They need a good strip down and deep clean anyway! A year or 2 of gigs has taken it's toll with numerous drinks spillages and splashes on them! :o
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Re: A clear canister starter switch?!

Postby Jack_T » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:04 pm

GE starters are just crap. I had one fail after 2 weeks :lol:

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Re: A clear canister starter switch?!

Postby Kev » Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:23 pm

I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope nothing is going to happen to the S10 and S16 starters :? :? :? :?

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Re: A clear canister starter switch?!

Postby Jack_T » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:26 pm

kevxsi16v wrote:I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope nothing is going to happen to the S10 and S16 starters :? :? :? :?

If they start being made in China I will be ANGRY!!! :evil:

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Re: A clear canister starter switch?!

Postby Danny » Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:12 pm

The OSRAM ST151 starters seem to be the worst for getting stuck then the ST111. I also hope the Philips ones don't shift to china too, I'd be quite angry

I bought 4 of those clear cannister PHILIPS S10P's they are LUSH!.. I also have other glow starters that have clear cannisters too

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Re: A clear canister starter switch?!

Postby Jack_T » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:00 pm

Philips starters are the best! Made in Holland, that's why!

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Postby Jack_T » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:00 pm

Philips starters are the best! Made in Holland, that's why!

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Re: A clear canister starter switch?!

Postby Danny » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:09 pm

I agree definitly the best ones out there.. I love my S10-Ps


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