Best modern manufacturer?

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Best modern manufacturer?

Postby FrontSideBus » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:54 am

I know we all hate Thorn's new offerings but who do you reckon makes the best quality fittings these days?
I know Tamlite and Fitzgerald still make "good old style" fluro's.
Opinions?
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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby LinearSLI-H » Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:21 am

Probably Fitzgerald, but I also think Fern-Howard can be a contender :)
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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby FrontSideBus » Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:57 am

I've got a Fern-Howard 38w Minimax with a Tridonic magnetic ballast in it and it looks like it would last forever!
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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby Tom » Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:04 pm

Fair to say Fitzgerald are now the best as far as standard battens go with Tamlite and Crompton still good along with Dextra. Thorlux still make the big bodied jobs with nice closed end old school trough reflectors still available! And dare I say it, their T5s look quite tasty too!
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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby Kev » Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:52 pm

Crompton for me! They have not really changed their design since the early 80s for the crompak! Good basic standard batten, don't go yellow like the fitzys and ends don't fall off like the tamlites!

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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby Danny » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:24 pm

Id say theres a few Good Fitting manufacturers...

Fitzgerald,
Crompton,
Tamlite
Some of the ETERNA Switch starts are OK too but some are Crap

IMO anything thats Switch start is Made well, Anything thats HF (THORN) is NOT made well!

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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby Kev » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:33 pm

One of the schools I look after has just ONE of the new thorn PPs I might replace it because I know it's there and it offends me having to look at it!!!

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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby FrontSideBus » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:37 pm

Kev wrote: I might replace it because I know it's there and it offends me


LOL! :lol:
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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby Danny » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:40 pm

Nah ya wanna save it really Dont ya kev hahaa only joking

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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby Fitzy-Fan » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:51 pm

Fitzgerald for me!! :D Followed by Thorlux for some real old school looking battens, and Whitecroft are just about allowed a look in.

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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby SuperSix » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:15 pm

Fitzgerald for me too!!! :D While they may have changed the lamp holders on the Lightpacks recently to the rotary type, they're still a solid piece with no moving parts, just as reliable as the older type. Most of the Cooper stuff is still decent too and Philips, they do seem to understand what quality means.

Thorn have ***** up big time lately with a lot of their new products, it's just cheap flimsy crap that doesn't last five minutes. The biggest failure has been the new Pop Pack with a box that looks like an oversized Toblerone, the customers are just not interested at all. Those who did give them a go certainly never will again!

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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby Paul » Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:53 pm

I almost feel like insisting people call Thorn 'Zumtobel' from now on as Thorn bears no resemblence to the Thorn of old.
There was a lot of Zumtobel stuff at one of the last places I worked and they were absolute trash! From the fluorescents to the discharge fittings to the halogen pin spots in the canteen! :vomit :vomit

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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby Kev » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:10 am

That's a great idea, anything post 2000 should be called zumtobel as that is when thorn sold off Atlas control gear to tridonic and went from using their own gear (atlas smart brown and thorn made) over to whatever was cheapest! Before 2000 it was VERY rare you would open up a thorn fitting and find someone else's gear!
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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby Zelandeth » Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:01 pm

How about Coughtrie? Granted we're mostly talking bulkheads here rather than general battens etc...but they still look to be trying from what I've seen. SFB, BD, PW and SP are still on their books after all these years.

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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby Paul » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:44 am

Coughtrie would also be in the running - they have not given into cheapening their products

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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby Andy » Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:56 pm

Yes Coughtrie stuff is still top quality and still made in Scotland as far as I know.

I agree with Paul and Kev that we should call modern post Y2K Thorn fittings Zumtobel if they have been made since the takeover as I don't consider Thorn to exist any longer and it is just an abuse of a great name and quality product line which is sadly no longer with us. :(

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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby Danny » Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:37 pm

Haven't coughtrie bought a LED SFB16 out or changed them to LED? Sure I heard somewhere that they had

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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby Tom » Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:44 pm

Well it seems Coughtrie are following market trends with LED and HF. But on the outside they're still good solid properly built Scottish made fittings! Which can easily be reverted to 'proper' lighting formats LOL
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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby Kev » Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:49 pm

That's foul maybe they have been force to make an LED option...?

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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby Zelandeth » Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:28 pm

Can understand where the LED influx would be coming from.

Fact is that a lot of places are insisting on it these days because it's the "in thing" so it seems - and if they're losing custom because of that - well, logical step is to introduce an LED line.

For some emergency only, non maintained fittings I guess LED does actually make some sense. ...But not much.

Depends what's inside them really. If it's just a cheap and nasty off-the-shelf LED module, not good. Never know though, they might have used a bit of common sense and at least tried to build it up to a standard rather than down to a price.

Either that or I'm just too much of an optimist!

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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby LinearSLI-H » Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:37 pm

For LED it has to be Philips, their building these like they built the first LPS lamps, then the first CFLs.
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Re: Best modern manufacturer?

Postby Ash » Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:49 pm

Many times the users are either brainwashed to install T5 and LED, or the buiding company decides for them. It is also comon to do "energy surveys", in which it goes roughly like this : "T5 : ok you are green, T12 : bad you need to replace them"

Unless Coughtrie can mage the people choose proper lighting, they sorta have no chce but to manufacture all the "green" (not very green with all the fuel wasted to RMA dead ballasts, is it ?) stuff as well


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